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“Assault Weapons” Ban Vote Delayed & So Are Its Authors

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I’ll say.

The anti-gunners in Congress have decided to table the “assault weapons” ban vote for now.

According to reporting from Politico, House Democrats have elected to punt the vote on their much-beloved “assault weapons” ban to after the summer session. The report indicates that the reason Pelosi is procrastinating on it is that she knows that she can’t get enough support–even from the Democrats who hold a majority in the House–for H.R. 1808. Why not? Part of the problem may be concern that voting “yes” on this bill will cost them at the polls. Part of the problem may be that she and her fellow Congressweasels can’t even define what an “assault weapon” is (which officially makes them more ignorant than the Associated Press, and that’s saying a lot). And part of the problem may be that this legislation was written by people who clearly shouldn’t be allowed out of the house without a helmet on.

Sound harsh? Nope, we’re being kind.

The NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action has eyes and ears on the floor of Congress, and through them, we have an after-action report of the sheer idiocy that our elected representatives have the nerve to call a legislative process. You can’t make this stuff up; if these people were any dumber, we’d have to water them twice a day. Below, please find some “highlights” of H.R. 1808, courtesy of our friends at the NRA.

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Farcical “Assault Weapons” Ban Mark-up Showed Contempt for Facts, Law, and Dignity

Anyone wanting a case study of why a stunning 93% of Americans lack confidence in Congress need only have witnessed last Wednesday’s Judiciary Committee mark-up of H.R. 1808, the Assault Weapons Ban of 2021, which was voted out of the committee along partisan lines. Wednesday’s proceedingswere a grotesque and ironic perversion of that mandate, as one anti-gun congressperson after another argued in favor of the largest gun ban in U.S. history, which would include the AR-15, the most popular rifle being sold in America today.

In doing so, they ignored facts, history, and constitutional law. They also beclowned themselves with behavior that was beneath the dignity of their office, even given how far it has fallen in public esteem.

A full accounting of the mark-up’s inaccuracies, distortions, and ad hominem attacks would be unreadably lengthy and demoralizing. What follows, then, is merely a sampling of the more egregious lines of argument put forward by the bill’s proponents.

The ill-informed nature of the bill’s proponents was probably best captured when Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI), the bill’s author, attempted to explain how pistol stabilizing braces can be used to turn a firearm into an “automatic weapon.” The absurdity of this claim cannot be overstated, but it fully captures the vigorous ignorance many anti-gun lawmakers have about the very subject matter they claim to be qualified to regulate.

Simply put, proponents of bills like H.R. 1808 are selling a lie: that the legislation would rid the U.S. of a particularly dangerous type of firearm and that by doing so it would save lives.

This was true of the first federal “assault weapons” ban of 1994 to 2004, which also grandfathered existing firearms and allowed for the importation and manufacture of slightly modified designs that did not affect the firearm’s action, ballistics, or rate of fire. Anti-gun committee members insisted the prior ban was effective and “saved countless lives” by citing studies that looked at crime data and victims per incident before, during, and after the ban. Pro-gun committee members rebutted this argument, however, by pointing out that the numbers of functionally equivalent AR-type and other semi-automatic rifles in private hands actually increased during the ban.

Meanwhile, the most comprehensive survey of existing literature on the effects of semi-automatic and “large capacity” magazine bans – one that specifically focused on causal relationships – found no convincing evidence that such laws reduce violent crime generally or even mass shootings in particular.

The other big lie, repeated by several anti-gun committee members, was that they respect the Second Amendment and that H.R. 1808 is fully consistent with it.

To promote this argument, anti-gun committee members characterized the AR-15 and similar semi-automatics as “like weapons” to the M-16 and other machine guns, described them as “dangerous and unusual,” and even suggested that the Second Amendment was limited to muskets and militias.

Of course, as pro-gun committee members pointed out, the M-16 and other true military assault weapons are capable of automatic fire. This makes them different in kind from semi-automatics like those that would be banned by H.R. 1808. Those distinctions, moreover, have been recognized in federal law since at least 1934, with newly manufactured machine guns being banned from civilian possession since 1986.

Clowning Themselves

H.R. 1808 also includes, for example, rimfire look-alike guns that often manufactured largely out of plastic and operate with .22 LR ammunition. It is laughable to suggest that these low-powered plinkers are anything “like” a true military rifle.

There is also nothing “unusual” about the types of firearms H.R. 1808 would ban. Recent industry figures put the number introduced into circulation in the U.S. since the 1990s at nearly 24.5 million. That figure significantly undercounts the number actually owned by Americans, moreover, as AR style rifles have been available to the public since the late 1960s, and AKs since at least the mid-1980s. The popularity of these types of rifles is indisputable.

Indeed, in the legislative equivalent of an “own goal,” anti-gun committee chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) admitted during the hearing that the “problem” with the guns H.R. 1808 would ban is that they are “in common use” and banning these “common use” firearms is the “point of the bill” (see video beginning at 2:14:50).

But as pro-gun committee member Dan Bishop (R-NC) pointed out, this put the bill directly at odds with multiple U.S. Supreme Court cases that have held the Second Amendment protects firearms “in common use” for lawful purposes.

SCORE! In your own goal

This led anti-gun committee members to make absurd arguments to try to limit and contextualize the “common use” test. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) suggested, for example, that guns themselves aren’t common in America, because fewer than half of Americans own them. He also suggested that semi-automatic long guns are only a small percentage of the total number of firearms present in the U.S. and therefore cannot be considered in “common use,” even though tens of millions of them are circulation. Raskin even suggested that the Supreme Court used that phrase to apply only to firearms in “common use” at the time of the founding (what Raskin called “muskets”) and that it had nothing to say about modern firearms.

All those claims, however, have already been debunked in prior Supreme Court cases or in opinions written by current Supreme Court justices. Cicilline also failed to acknowledge that after the Supreme Court issued its decision in Bruen, it vacated lower court decisions upholding state laws very similar to the “large capacity” magazine and “assault weapons” bans in H.R. 1808 and remanded those cases to be redecided under the Bruen style analysis.

Overall, the proponents of H.R. 1808 proved during last week’s mark-up of the bill that they are not seriously engaged in defending the legislation on either the facts or the law. Instead, they indulged in purely political grandstanding and passed a measure that would be ineffective, oppressive, and unconstitutional, were it to be signed into law.

12 Comments

12 Comments

  1. Bemused Berserker

    July 30, 2022 at 11:20 pm

    Freedom’s Lodge jumped the gun. The House passed this with a 217 to 215 vote late on Friday.
    The bill now goes to the Senate.

  2. GomeznSA

    July 28, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    One FACT that needs to be pointed out and emphasized in any further discussion over this abomination of a ‘bill’ is just how ‘effective’ the ’94 AWB actually was. IIRC the total number of convictions under the auspices of that ‘law’ was a grand total of 14. I’d bet the family farm that those convicted under it would have likely been convicted of other existing local, state or federal gun laws. It would be interesting if one of the pro gun writers could determine the exact number (in case I’m off on the 14) and the specific crime and what punishment they received. That info would be a big water dump on this latest dumpster fire of proposed legislation

  3. Richard Mackey

    July 28, 2022 at 5:54 pm

    Hillary Clinton made a statement that she want to rule under New World Order (NWO)when she first started looking at the Presidents Office. The only the NWO would work is for a complete weapons band around the world which is slowly but surly happening thanks to George Sores Clinton’s daughter’s father-in-law. This was part of the Neo-Nazi leaders plain and has only increased thanks to the Communist?Nazi Democrat’s. They want total control control over you, me and everyone else.

  4. AKFRED60

    July 28, 2022 at 5:51 pm

    Well. I say we use their terminology and hold their little feet to the fire. If the 2A was not meant for modern firearms, then the 1st doesn’t hold for modern devices. Law enforcement may listen to their phone calls, search their emails and dig into their text messages as these devices were not around when the Constitution was written. So the founding fathers never meant for them to be protected. No free speech on the internet (not around then), no free speech on TV (not around then), no free speech on radio (not around then) and no free speech in movies (not around then). They can’t use any modern means of amplifying their voice (big loss there), have to get around by horse and buggy, because modern devices. We should be behind them 100%, but let them lead by example.

  5. JonsOn

    July 28, 2022 at 5:10 pm

    Congressasswipe Sissywienie who wrote this bill is one of the most vile piles of Jackass(donkey) shit in the congress(there are many however). His bill is a joke and so is he. His constituents are either extremely stupid or deaf and blind. Someone should take this man to the range for a day of shooting fun. Let he see that guns aren’t the scary things he thinks they are. If he had an accident while there, no loss but hopefully that won’t happen. Maybe the guy can pull it out and see that everything he’s been fed about firearms is wrong.

  6. Tim

    July 28, 2022 at 10:40 am

    Are they really looking to break the camel’s back?
    There’s no way that legislation could be passed,& upheld. They just love to see the inside of the superior court building!

    • Ed Schrade

      July 28, 2022 at 4:30 pm

      But they raised a lot of money from fellow socialists for the mid terms.

  7. Chick

    July 28, 2022 at 10:34 am

    This part is a lie ” with newly manufactured machine guns being banned from civilian possession since 1986″. Fully automatic firearms can be owned by civilians, after passing a background check and paying a $200 tax. What happened in 1986 is Congress banned any new fully autatic firearms to enter into the fully automatic registry. So. If you want one, you have to buy a used one that is already registered. The BATF records show there are 543,073 fully automatic firearms that are registered.

    • Smitty

      July 28, 2022 at 11:57 am

      I wouldn’t necessarily call it a lie. It was merely a mispeak. All you have to do is insert the word “New” and the entire sentence becomes truth.
      You expanded on the particulars of owning a used automatic weapon and the hoops you must jump through to possess them. We knew what the author was talking about.
      You are just splitting hairs.

    • ExSoldier762

      July 28, 2022 at 12:26 pm

      No chick, that part is absolutely true as written and as you quoted. You actually affirmed the statement in the rest of your post. I read once where there was a legal workaround that you could buy a new semiautomatic and buy a pre 1986 auto sear and that’s the registered, tax stamped part. But I can’t verify that right now.

      • James

        July 28, 2022 at 5:56 pm

        Here these goofballs go again. You have far leftist power crazed politicians who want to ban semi auto rifles under the guise that this will stop all crime and school shootings.

        Criminals don’t use semi auto rifles, they use stolen handguns, which they steal from stores, homes, businesses and even police cars.

        The majority of shooting in America is “gang” related. Over drugs, turf, girlfriend, or someone looked at a gang member the wrong way, or someone is flashing gang signs.

        To stop school shootings, put the police and soldiers at every school in America with orders to shoot any school shooters.

        If any school shooters are caught, after their trial, have a public hanging just like in the old days and you won’t have anymore school shootings.

        Also arrest and put the school shooters parents in jail. After all, they are the ones who raised these monsters like this. It is all the parents fault. Put the parents in jail.

        The gun banning far leftist politicians know nothing about firearms, but now suddenly they are experts on the functions of firearms claim they know more than gunsmiths.

        Say for a moment that the politiicians ” banned” semi auto rifles, how long would it be before the politicians want to restrict and ban bolt action rifles, lever action rifles and shotguns? Once they get their foot in the door, they will come after all the other firearms and want them banned too.

        There are over 2 million laws on the books in America with something like 100 to 200 added every week. It is said a person cannot drive to work or go grocery shopping without breaking half a dozen laws! So that makes everyone a criminal, and that’s what the far leftist power crazed politicians want. So they can have more control over you and your life. They want to own you and crush you and make you their slave!

        Communist China has come out against the American 2nd amendment. They want it repealed. The Chinese masters have ordered it to be repealed.
        The Chinese government says that no one but police, soldiers and politicians can own guns in China.
        That’s how they are able to control a population of 1.3 billion people.

        China supports gun banning groups and gun banning politicians in America.

        China is buying up American farmland and ranch land, shopping centers, and no one cares or does anything about it. China just bought a farm near a top secret air force base in North Dakota.

        China does not allow foreign countries to come in and to purchase it’s farmland.

        American farmland and ranch land for American citizens only!

        China wants Australia, New Zealand and America.

        China has already ordered the government of Australia and New Zealand to restrict and ban firearms. Which they did!

        Now China is working with evil, far leftist politicians here in America to restrict and ban firearms.

        China knows that with Americans owning firearms that they cannot invade, conquer and takeover America.

        During WW2, Germany and Japan had plans to invade the east coast and west coast of America and have Mexico invade the southern states promising Mexico to give them Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, but they were afraid of all the Americans who owned firearms and would fight them off. Nowadays, they are joining up to ban all firearms in America. They consider America their enemy!

        The gun banning groups and hunting banning groups are run and funded by Micheal Bloomberg, George Soros, the Chinese government, the U.N., Russia, North Korea, Iran and Mexico.
        They want all firearms banned in America! And there are politicians in America who are happy and willing to do their bidding!

        These crazy, power crazed politicians want to ban all magazines over 10 rounds, again claiming that this will stop all crime in America and stop all school shootings. How?

        Now these gun banning groups and gun banning politicians are already talking about banning magazines over 5 rounds!

        The gun banning groups and gun banning politicians say that you don’t need a handgun for protection as you will get”confused” and shoot yourself or shoot your family members. Huh?

        These gun banning groups and gun banning politicians say that the police will protect you. Say, aren’t these the same people who want to defund-abolish the police??

        Maybe if these demoncrap run cities would stop listening to a bunch of loud mouth criminals, rioters, looters protesters, and arsonist and stopped trying to defund-abolish the police and let the police go out and arrest these criminals and put them in prison for long sentences then the crime rate would go down. It’s as simple as that.

        The administration is having sections of the border wall taken down and sold off for scrap. This allows the cartels, M 13, M18, G9 gang members, drug dealers, criminals, murderers, felons, rapists, terrorists, spies and prostitutes to cross the border and the administration welcomes them and the crime that they bring.

        The Central America countries are emptying out their jails and prisons and sending thousands of criminals and felons to America and the administration welcomes them and the crime that they bring.

        America cannot become the dumping ground for all the world’s poor, unemployed and criminals. Do we really want America to end up like India with over a billion people living on the streets, alleys, sidewalks and gutters and having to eat garbage out of dumpsters just to survive?
        Finish the border wall now!

        AOC and the squad and Letitia James want to repeal the 2nd amendment.

        AOC and the squad want to replace the Constitution and Bill of Rights with something out of Castro and Stalin handbook and turn America into a” communist workers paradise”!

        AOC and the squad want to replace the American flag too.

        There are politicians here in America who hate America and freedom!

        Protect and support your right to keep and own all types of firearms and accessories.

        Support and join pro gun groups and pro hunting groups.

        Repeal the 1934 gangster gun control act.
        We no longer have gangster bank robbers riding on sideboards of automobiles robbing banks anymore.
        Today they use computers to rob banks.
        Make it legal to put shoulder stocks on handguns.
        Make it legal to purchase sound suppressors to help save hunters and shooters hearing.
        Make “trapper” lever action rifles with 12″,13″,14″,15″ barrels legal to own.

        Buy more guns, ammo and accessories now before it’s too late.

  8. Timothy James Reams

    July 28, 2022 at 9:58 am

    You hit the nail on the head! I agree, we are being regulated by people that have absolutely no concept of what they are doing or proper descriptions of what they are banning. We have cort of brought this one by not correcting the “assault weapon” description as soon as it came to be. now it has snowballed almost out of control. I have written all 3 of my Federal legislators that I will actively fight against any who votes for their mess. That includes my state legislation as well. I am the member of 4 Second amendment groups. I am 68 years old and my personal firearms have never shot anyone. I retired for the Army and Army National Guard with 20 Plus years. Isupport all our law enforcement officers. I am a concealed carrier as well. Thank you for letting me rant.

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